So which family group do you belong to?

 

When I started collecting Pallisers more than 25 years ago, I naturally began to fit them into family groups.
At first there was some logic to the groupings, but now so many groups have been found to be linked,
the numbering system now seems almost random!

 

 

GROUP 1

Descent from John Palliser (1578-1623) of Newby Wiske, North Yorkshire, yeoman

Naturally, this is my family group. There are items about some of them within these pages, where they have entries in The Dictionary of National Biography, and other published biographies. This group originates in Maunby, in the parish of Kirby Wiske near Northallerton, North Yorkshire. Until this century, they were landowners, with younger sons going into the Church, Army or Navy. Their progeny have been mainly in Ireland, London and Sussex since leaving Yorkshire in the 1660s. From this group descends many of those featured in the Dictionary of National Biography (entries of which are repeated on this site), and also Charles Palliser, author of The Quincunx and other novels. One branch also emigrated to Virginia in the 17th century.

 

 

GROUP 2

Descent from Christopher Palliser (c1555-1624) of Kirby Wiske, North Yorkshire, yeoman (cousin to the above)

Group 2 stems from Group 1, but the break is in the late 16th century. This Group remained in Kirby Wiske, until the 1840s, one branch going through Canada, to the United States, and another through London to Australia, by (lack of?) virtue of the family convict, who was transported for stealing five fowl. Another branch went to Bedale in North Yorkshire.

 

 

GROUP 3

Descent from William Palister and Edith Kirlew of Cawood, Yorkshire

Group 3 is a small group originating in Cawood whose tentacles spread to Leeds. Descendants are in Canada and Australia.

 

 

GROUP 5

Descent from Michael Palliser (bur 1796) of Sutton, North Yorkshire, innkeeper

This group descends from Group 10 (see below). Their known origins were in Sutton-under-Whitestonecliff and nearby Felixkirk but they were later more widespread in the Wharfedale and Rawdon (Guiseley) areas of West Yorkshire. Members of this clan have turned up in the United States. This group includes Michael Palliser (1815-1904) who wrote his family history, but which was published by his son in 1919.  Group 5 has been merged with Group 10.

 

 

GROUP 6

Unsorted Pallisers (etc) originating in Thirsk

So many Palliser (etc) families moved in and out of Thirsk at various points, that it is not always possible to link them to other groups. For the most part, I have not actually investigated them, as yet, so some of them may be linked. Some of these are currently being worked on, and a few of them should be on my Rootsweb pages soon.

 

 

GROUP 7

Descent from Nathaniel Palliser (born 1823) of Brimham Hall, North Yorkshire, farmer, grandson of William Palliser and Mary Grange.

This is a small group, concentrated round Hartwith near Kirkby Malzeard, Yorkshire. The possibility was that this group is connected to Group 14 but I feel they descend from Group 10. William Palliser and Mary Grange married in Ripon, but Elizabeth, their daughter was born in Thirsk. However, there is equally the possibility of this group having their origins in Thirsk itself. While Nathaniel's children's births were all registered as Palliser, the family abandoned the name of Palliser, in favour of Nathaniel Palliser's patronymic, Addyman. His mother, Elizabeth Palliser, married John Addyman after his birth. Group 7 has been merged with Group 10 and has been uploaded to WorldConnect at Rootsweb.

 

 

GROUP 8

Descent from Marmaduke Palliser (Freeman of York 1684) whitesmith

The origins of this group were in York and Sessay, North Yorkshire, just a few miles from Thirsk and South Kilvington. Most of the family stayed in the area, and some of them are featured in a locally published diary, "William Metcalf, His Book", which covers the closing three decades of the 18th century. One line went to London, via Kent. From the Kent group descend Sir Arthur Palliser, the Second World War admiral; Sir Michael Palliser, of the Foreign Office; the artist Anthony Palliser, the actor Nicholas Palliser, and the writer Peter Palliser.

 

 

GROUP 9

Descent from John Palliser (married 1786) of Coxwold, North Yorkshire

This relatively small group abounded in the general Helmsley area of Yorkshire. Descendants are still there today.

 

 

GROUP 10

Descent from William Palliser (1714-1787) of Sowerby, North Yorkshire, weaver

What was group 20, is the progenitor of the prolific Group 10, but they are now combined. Their origins were in South Kilvington, North Yorkshire, only a few miles from Kirby Wiske. No link to Group 1 has yet been found by me, but I'm sure the link cannot be that distant. This group stayed mainly in this area of England, and descendants are still in the area today. Group 10 remained initially in Sowerby by Thirsk, then spread to Northallerton, where they made their name as builders, and from there to Australia , and the United State, where they also made their name as builders and architects! Numerous descendants of this group still live in Northallerton and the surrounding area to this day. To this group belongs Herbert William Palliser (1882-1963), the British sculptor; George Palliser, Architect, quoted on the Bissell Architects site and Elmer Palliser of America who was stranded on Cocos Island.

 

 

GROUP 14

Descent from John Palliser (married 1606) of Copt Hewick, near Ripon, North Yorkshire, yeoman

Group 14 is a large group originating from the villages around Ripon, Yorkshire. They probably originated in Catterick, and may be a branch of Group 1. Their family members abounded around Leeds and stayed mostly in the area. However, one branch went to the USA late last century, and they are predominantly in St Louis, Missouri. From this group is historian Professor David Palliser and young chess player Richard Palliser. There are some Group 14 Pallisers mentioned in documents in John Wells genealogy pages. Group 28 has been found to stem from this group, until this particular clan took itself further north in the mid-19 th century, to the Durham and Lanchester areas and was one of the most prolific will-writing groups because, for many years, they had a grocer’s shop in Consett, co Durham. There are still descendants there today.

 

 

GROUP 16

Descent from Richard Palliser (married 1832) of London, saddler &harnessmaker

This family was a group of saddlers who lived in London early in the 19th century. Richard Palliser, brother of George, however, emigrated to Tasmania, leaving brother George behind. A descendant (non-Palliser) was one of the first ladies to go up to Oxford University. From this group descends Arthur Palliser, known as Jack, the Australian flying ace, who was from Tasmania, and Florence Palliser, later the wife of Sir Samuel Barrow of Surrey, and their son, Sir Malcolm Palliser Barrow, of Salisbury (Harare), Rhodesia. This group is now known to have originated in Sowerby by Thirsk, and has been merged with Group 10.

 

 

GROUP 17

Descent from John Francis Palliser of Bristol

This family has its origins in Bristol but with London connections in common with Group 2, specifically Thomas Street, Bethnal Green. I strongly suspect that John Francis Palliser of Bristol is the same persons who was baptised as Doctor Wilson Palliser in Stepney, London.  17 has been merged with Group 2.

 

 

GROUP 23

Descent from Levi Palliser of the Knaresborough area, Yorkshire

Within Palliser families, the Christian name of Levi is an unusual one, so it is a fair bet that those with the name are probably of the same group. This group descends from a batch of Pallisers in Farnham, near Knaresborough, Yorkshire, through an illegitimate line which descended from a branch that was long in Ripley, near Ripon. This group may be the progenitors of all Pallisers in England, but I am still working on that.

 

 

GROUP 25

Various families from the Scarborough area, unsorted

I have had a batch of emails from people researching Pallisers of the Scarborough area. So far, I have not managed to link these Seamer/Ayton families together, due to missing data, but I have linked them in one file.

 

 

GROUP 26

Descent from John Palliser and Mary Hambleton of Thirsk

 

I have had a batch of emails from people researching the clockmaker Pallisers, who went from Thirsk to Hull and beyond. These have now been found to descend from Group 10 and so have been merged to that group.

 

 

 

 

GROUP 50

Descent from Robert Pallister and Ann Woodhouse of Skelton by Guisborough, Yorks

Several grandsons of this couple from Skelton by Guisborough emigrated to Michigan, USA before about 1850

 

 

GROUP 60

Descent from Robert Pallister whose children were baptised at Cockerton, County Durham

This group originated in Cockerton, County Durham at some point being at the Shoulder of Mutton pub. Some branches remained in County Durham and Yorkshire, but others went to Australia.

 

 

MENORCA and FLORIDA, USA

Various families

Since I have been on the internet, I have become increasingly aware of the numbers of Pallisers in the Catalonia area of Spain. There are probably more Pallisers (that spelling) in the Spanish telephone books, than there are combined Pallisers and Pallisters in the English phone books. It begs the question: who came first, the English Pallisers or the Spanish Pallisers? The English paliser is said to derive from a ‘maker of palings and fences’. The Spanish palicer is said to derive from someone who worked with fur pelts. So, are these two distinct origins of the same surname?

There were Pallisers in Catalonia at least from the mid-16th century.

From the Menorcan Pallisers descends Francisco Sintes Pellicer, an activist and one of the founding families of Nassau County, Florida. Those from MENORCA have been uploaded to WorldConnect at Rootsweb. Those from mainland SPAIN are still being worked on.

 

 

UNGROUPED PALLISERS & VARIANTS

Various origins, unsorted

I have had odd emails and letters from various people looking for their roots. For various reasons, these Pallisers' origins do not make themselves clear from my databases, either because of missing data, or because I have not studied them closely enough yet.

 

 

PALSER & PELSER

Various origins, unsorted

I have had odd emails and letters from various people looking for their roots. For various reasons, these Palliser's origins do not make themselves clear from my databases, either because of missing data, or because I have not studied them closely enough yet. The surname of Palser predominates in Gloucestershire.

 

 

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